By all means express an opinion, but do at least try to include a modicum of balance and maybe just a just a touch of humility. Rooney wasn't match fit and Gerrard and Terry are nearing the end of their int career, and in Terrys case that might be very soon. Complain about this comment (Comment number 53). But at the same time it was obvious to all that the Italians wanted it more than we did. Credit where credit's due. To have the tactical awareness of a man who has managed successfully at the top level in three or four countries smugly dismissed by some nobody who has probably never even managed the local under 11s side is frankly laughable. Make it an instant penalty and instruct referees worldwide to give these decisions instantly when they occur. It comes as no surprise to anyone that England were defeated, well except to certain members of the press looking at some rags this morning. Yet, the battle was lost in midfield. Alessandro Diamanti struck the decisive penalty as Italy edged past England 4 ⦠I just can't see England ever competing in the posession, ball movement game with the Italys and Spains and Germanies of the world. This is the worst England squad for 40 years with only two players that can be considered world class, Hart and Terry. However why was Rooney playing? Englandâs exhausted midfield pair of captain Steven Gerrard and Scott Parker could not lay a glove on this elegant operator and Wayne Rooney was not able to track back and exert his influence on Pirlo. Full credit to defence and Joe Hart though, they kept a dominant team from scoring for 120 minutes. Did Buffon do that once? Rooney was off the pace, never really "looked at the races", yet the media and Hodgson rant and rave about what a truly wonderful player he is and what a game changer and match winner; unfortunately as is always the case he is not; yet Hodgson stuck with the Man Utd players, Young was awful, and well we have seen what Rooney did, or did not do, we would have been better off taking players who have a proven goal scoring record for England.Although you cannot blame hodgson; one is left to wonder why he has such an allegiance to the Man Utd players? Complain about this comment (Comment number 17). Deep down I know the team is way behind on the skill levels of our European neighbours. Complain about this comment (Comment number 58). Let's stop beating England up, the analysis is quite pertinent. He's one for the future. Complain about this comment (Comment number 85). Complain about this comment (Comment number 25). They were lucky to win against Sweden with 2 lucky goals as their keeper made a bad mistake and Welbeck got lucky with the winner(any non-Englishman to score that goal would've had "good fortune on their side)Another poor performance against Ukraine but golden boy Rooney(never looked fit at all over the 2 games) couldn't miss after another goalkeeping howler.Then the clamour started as England avoided Spain, although the amount of time the Italians had the ball it could've almost been Spain. Hence, your status as an armchair England manager. In a major tournament when the game is on the line in a knock-out phase they're never able to overcome an opponent of serious calibre. I't's not so much people's right to comment and criticize I have a problem with, it's the arrogance and mean spiritedness I find hard to stomach. Alessandro Diamanti stepped forward to send England back in time and Italy into the last four of Euro 2012. Lots of endeavour but nothing to show for it.Practicing penalties? Complain about this comment (Comment number 55), England got a draw against France, everyone thought it was a great result, yet we have seen how poor France really are. He kept Young and Rooney, having England playing with Rooney, Young, Carroll, Walcott, trying to win the match. There would just have been one less person on the pitch passing the ball to a blue shirt.Young was abysmal up until this game. I'm afraid England are a journeyman team, lots of endeavour, not much class. It's not all rosy in the garden but it's not the end of the world either. Furthermore why would he change a winning side from the one that beat Sweden, Hodgson and the media, ranted on about what "togetherness" and spirit they have, and they came back against Sweden and showed spirit, Ox Chamberlaine was good, Walcott played well, with defenders scared of his pace, and what does Hodgson do? So well done.Read a stat this morning that England's most successful completed pass was Hart to Carrol (and he was only on after 1hr)Why do England keepers always hoof the ball forward in hope? I am English and have been playing football in Germany for 15 years. If we continue to play like this negative rubbish then we can forget about qualifying for the World Cup in 2014. No. Exactly what we got? I'm expecting to read a fair few posts today that England can't produce players to keep the ball or players who are 'technically good'. Surely that's the first thing Roy should be drumming into the players -KEEP THE BALL LADS!!! What comes across is that your opinion is the only one that matters. For the latest updates across BBC blogs, visit the Blogs homepage. The second half as well as extra time illustrated that there was no plan B. Italyâs win brought an abrupt end to the rising optimism after England topped the group. OK, off we go. Complain about this comment (Comment number 47). Let me tell you from watching him every week, United have never won a game because Rooney man marked someone, neither have England. This side gave everything and on this occasion were outclassed. I'm sorry, really I am but I have to say this on the internet to others, why is no-one mentioning Jordan Henderson? Watch the 2012 England vs. Italy Euro Quarter-finals full match held at Olimpiyskiy (Kiev) on Footballia I said it when he was appointed England manager (deja vu).So please: No accusations of me jumping on any bandwagon. This is a great time to move forward. From a United fan too, no less.4. Well done to Roy and the boys.Come On England!!! Complain about this comment (Comment number 32). Low expectations? It ain't going to happen. Complain about this comment (Comment number 9). Visit the BBC Sport website. If this defensive, negative, unimaginative, skill-less style of football is going to be the norm for the next 2 years then Wembley will be half-full by the time the last World Cup qualifiers are played. When England got the ball there was an attempt to rush back up the field with 1 or 2 players ending in giving the ball away. Rooney looked short of match sharpness and physical fitness against Italy, rather like a car trying to start on a flat battery as he struggled to spark himself into life, although such are his natural gifts that no-one should blame Hodgson for picking him. England vs Italy Euro 2012 ( England Italy VIDEO BELOW) Final score and result:- England vs Italy 0-0 ( Italy win 4-2 on penalties) Olympic Stadium, Kiev- Euro 2012 Quarterfinal- 24 June, 2012- 19.45 UK- Sunday- 24/6/12. Why was he on the pitch? Poor show..again. What was more worrying was the fact that all the England players except Hart and the defence were absolutely cream crackered after just 45 minutes. We need a major shakeup in English football to start producing players who can pass a ball and dominate games, we didn't achieve that in a single game. clown, Complain about this comment (Comment number 22). Watch full Euro 2012 football matches online on Footballia. If 2004/2006 were probably disappointments, there's no heartache here we got what we deserved. Should've brought him on as an impact player. We are lacking in mid field because you need more than just Steven Gerrard. Put things right. Let's not forget we've only just been handed a new manager, and he'll need time.We've got some interesting players, but do we have the right player? The conclusion may have been the same as manager Roy Hodgson gathered Englandâs desolate squad near the centre circle in rapidly emptying Olympic Stadium. This is typical Hodgson. England build a good wall and, right now, that's kind of it. Complain about this comment (Comment number 71). Opinions. Let the street rivalry be solved on the foootball pitch, with rules. 2. England have never produced players with the technical ability to compete with the best. Statistically when we had our best spell - the best in the tournament, including some deft touches by Rooney, our midfield was in control, but then they got increasingly tired. Complain about this comment (Comment number 29). Now I don't want to bash Hodgson he has done a reasonable job in installing a never say die attitude into the players and for that he should be commended. At least by the end came the acknowledgement of the vase gap in class. Gerrard was more exhausted than Parker, and Young was underperforming. 4-3-3 always equates to 5 in the middle when defending. When Wilshere is back, that should spell the end of Gerrard's national team career, not like he would care. The result was that England, barring a 20-minute first half spell in which they played their best football of the tournament, were pulled to pieces and only survived until penalties via a combination of good fortune, brave defending and poor Italian finishing. It is clear Englandâs players have bought into his methods and there was a unity of purpose about the squad that was conspicuous by its absence in South Africa in 2010. 2012 NSC Olimpiyskiy - Kyiv. I would have taken off Rooney, Gerrard and Young instead of Wellbeck, Parker and Milner.Rooney should have taken Pirlo out of the game but got bored of it. Welbeck, Carroll, Defoe were not ideal choices and wouldn't be automatic choices for their club sides. I recently watched the qualifiers against Switzerland and you can tell how much an impact that young lad could bring. Complain about this comment (Comment number 96). It was a long, harrowing night for England and in these extreme circumstances it was to their credit that they hung in and drew the match despite being outclassed. When Pirlo got the ball we just backed away - whenever any of England midfield got the ball there were 2-3 Italians wearing the England player's shirt they were so close. On a warm and hence tiring night two things stood out:1. He's lazy,sloppy and has no positioning sense but I'm sure he'll create play and lead the line a treat. England would have gladly taken victory on penalties, or any other way for that matter, but there would have been an element of grand larceny about it, so much better were their opponents. Gerrard has it all, a diamond amongst a team that stinks of mediocrity.... id like to see you do better. US edition. Go ahead, completely forget the past season, and see how far Andy "Better than Rooney" Carrol gets England. I'm not sure, but if we can get the best out of Wilshere, we could well find the missing link.Statistically we've never been able to dominate a game, if we get that missing link we'll retain more possession and get the best out of our best assets : Young, Walcott, Rooney who will be reaching their best years now.To me the main reason they had a poor tournament was because our midfield was drenched, Parker is good but not world class, he looked tired all throughout the tournament he was probably nursing his injury. Englandâs story had a familiar ending as another penalty shoot-out sent them home heartbroken from a major tournament â but this time there must be no hard luck stories. Complain about this comment (Comment number 2). Milner for all his industrialism is useless at beating a man or putting a good cross in. European; SAT 14 Jun 2014 World Cup ... England 1-2 Italy highlights. England have some good young players to come in, but perhaps we just have to accept that unless some incredible players come in we will only ever achieve our level which is the last 16 or 8 of a major tournament. If you want England to look like Wimbeldon in the 90's (long balls away) for the next 5-10 years, keep calling for Carrol.5. Pretty much.2. England lost on penalties. Study best experience in Barcelona if you are short of knowledge. Pirlo can influence the game because he isn't wasting energy chasing it to get the ball back - the rest of the midfield do that, all of them, and then they don't give the ball away when its passed to them or try to hard with their own passes and lose it. 90 + 2 min: Pirlo (Italy) has an attempt on goal.. 90 + 1 min: SUBSTITUTION Maggio (in) - Abate (out) (Italy).. 90 min: 3 mins. Even if he does come back and is plays well great but lets not overhype him or any of these other young players. Goalkeeper Hart has cemented his reputation as one of the worldâs best goalkeepers, while defender Joleon Lescott has looked an England player at last. @6All very well looking for a different formation, but without the quality in the squad it doesn't matter what formation you pick - Young was disappointing all tournament, but when you consider that his replacement on the left would be Downing, and other players were also under parIt is inexplicable how players who seem to be able to pass the ball at their clubs suddenly become so incomptent when they put on an England shirt - you can't even blame it on unreasonable expectations this time either.. It's only what a manager can do when trying to be positive and he did it.England need to look forward, taking the positives from this tournament.Congratulations to Italy. walcott and Ox in particular aren't even automatic starts for Arsenal. The real issue was the centre of midfield and the disappearance of gerrard. Complain about this comment (Comment number 37). It's funny how everyone waxes lyrical about Pirlo and when we had a player of his calibre in Scholes we put him out on the left wing (or at least Sven did)! Yeah, of course we should get rid of Hodgson, 2 months into the job, having inherited someone else's team and preparation, with a host of players injured and with limited time to impose a complete shift in thinking and tactics....In a nutshell: Young was dire and should not have been on the pitch to take the pen. I'm not sure what Hodgson was trying to do in assembling such average players but it says it all when you're replacing tired legs and aiming to win a quarter final and the man you send on to make the difference is Jordan Henderson.Why oh why would you take Wellbeck off but leave Rooney on? Good riddance. A game every 3/4 days constantly chasing will drain even the fittest premier league stars. Complain about this comment (Comment number 36). These are some of the popular topics this blog covers. England suffered penalty heartbreak at Euro 2012 after losing 4-2 on penalties to Italy after being outplayed in the quarter-final in Kiev. Complain about this comment (Comment number 39). Our players don't all press for the whole game. Well here we are mulling over what could have been but it's the same old story, but with a twist. England will only ever have a chance of winning if we adopt a European model of technically gifted players who can play the ball on the deck and can pass and move with confidence and fluency.If we don't make this change now with our kids then we will be left behind forever. World Cup 2014 will bring additional and strong competition from the South American countries. When Walcott came on we persisted in trying to go down the left channel where Cole and Young basically were being eaten alive all night. Here's a thought, let's try playing three midfielders. BBC Sport takes a look at previous encounters between England and Italy ahead of Sunday's Euro 2012 quarter-final Being in midfield surely it is part of his job to keep possession and keep the ball ?I am using Gerrard and not Parker here because all I heard before and after the game (what little I watched after) from the BBC was how Gerrard was England's Pirlo, and how important Gerrard is to England. If he'd played an attacking side England would have found themselves on the end of a cricket score. What about all the times weâve outclassed our opponents and not got the result. Really? I'm not saying old guard out now but blood youngsters early and often in the qualifiers. Create the regulatory background. Is that what 'the shirt' means? He cannot be deemed incompetent, because, by definition, he is wholly competent.We could argue about the why (he had 2 months and blended a squad of relative experience and inexperience to play as a unit in a fashion that they could quickly grasp, winning a group we wouldn't have been surprised to not get out of) and the how (he put together a backroom team that mixed veteran England staff with new and fresh ideas) but the fact is you're never going to be able to see past your bubble of self-importance.Give opinion on the matter, criticise the specifics, but give up calling people "icompetent," "inadequate" and the like, especially given that they are without a shadow of a doubt an immeasurable amount more qualified and competent than yourself. As an international manager, he's been successful. Not to mention the blog is merely criticism rather than a critique, there is no suggestions of how to improve things or what he (as BBC's expert) believes the next steps to be.Anyway, after that rant is finished, let's get to the game. 4-4-2 under Sven Erikson did not work in the world cup teams dominated possession againt England. English. Complain about this comment (Comment number 59), The fact that England got that far (further than many expected) says a lot about the heart in the team. The knockout phase of UEFA Euro 2012 began with the quarter-finals on 21 June 2012, and was completed on 1 July 2012 with the final at the Olympic Stadium in Kyiv, won by Spain 4â0 against Italy. watch euro 2012 Italy vs England uefa football live stream onlinewatch euro 2012 Italy vs England uefa football live stream online A rigid and frankly ineffectual formation was never in any danger of being changed. Every pundit and his cat outside of England predicted a draw and England to go out on Penalties. Complain about this comment (Comment number 95). Complain about this comment (Comment number 5). There is some hope. Could I just add that all England managers have made the mistake of automatically selecting players based on what they are capable of on their day, rather than form. Some may even feel England over-achieved given the short notice the manager had to prepare this campaign. overated fat kid with attitude. Good goalkeeper, yes - one of the greats, no, not yet.Watching the tournament (especially the last couple of games), it strikes me that Hodgson is going to have his "favourites" in the team, who he is never going to either drop or substitute. Rooney was his usual bottling self in big games, worst player on the pitch by a long shot contributing nothing whatsoever, but he would have been first player on the team sheet, shouldn't have even taken him. Also the Italians couldn't score for their lives. Itâs not about âfairâ in tournament football â itâs about getting the result. England out... and for footballing reasons proper! 90 + 3 min: Good build up by England ,as rooney fires it over the bar after Carroll had headed the ball in. No wonder expectations were low. So the game goes into 'Extra Time'. firstly i would like to say that nobody here has any right to say none of these players are proud to represent their country, i personally think that is one thing we can take home from this tournament a sense of fight and willingness to perform for the shirt. about history. Wilshere wouldn't have been injured if he hadn't been rushed so early. Was anyone surprised when he missed? England suffer penalty agony once more as Italy win a shoot-out after the Euro 2012 quarter-final finishes goalless in Kiev. Complain about this comment (Comment number 38). 3. I'll be blunter. This England may have had its limitations but there is no shame in their demise. The best players in the EPL over the years are foreigners and football at the grassroot level is taught the wrong way. Right, I'm bored of reading nonsense from the lot of you, here's some home truths about England and Euro 2012:1. Roy did his best in the time available and the players he had at his disposal. There isnât much to say but Iâll bring up some halftime notes! Complain about this comment (Comment number 50). 2:45 P.M. Kickoff of Euro 2012 Quarterfinal, England vs. Italy And theyâre off: England, in traditional white, is attacking from left to right on your television screen, with Italy going right to left for the first half wearing blue. Complain about this comment (Comment number 98). Complain about this comment (Comment number 8). The 2012 UEFA European Football Championship, commonly referred to as UEFA Euro 2012 or simply Euro 2012, was the 14th European Championship for men's national football teams organised by UEFA.
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